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	<title>Comments on: Y, by Marjorie Celona</title>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/y-by-marjorie-celona/#comment-13363</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kim:  I did not see that Y had made the Waterstone list.  Celona was on a panel that Mrs. KfC moderated at the Calgary writers&#039; festival and she was very impressed as well.  Given the very positive response from the publishing industry to this debut novel, I can&#039;t help but wonder if Celona isn&#039;t an illustration of the new phenomenon that requires debut authors to have the skills and looks to be very &quot;event&quot; presentable as part of the overall marketing of the book.  Alex Ohlin, another Giller finalist, is another who fits the model -- although the vicious review she got in the NY Times probably overtook any other marketing aspect (and in the finall analysis also probably sold more books).

As for Y, I remember the general thrust of the book and a few of the scenes but would have to say that it hasn&#039;t grown in memory since I read it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim:  I did not see that Y had made the Waterstone list.  Celona was on a panel that Mrs. KfC moderated at the Calgary writers&#8217; festival and she was very impressed as well.  Given the very positive response from the publishing industry to this debut novel, I can&#8217;t help but wonder if Celona isn&#8217;t an illustration of the new phenomenon that requires debut authors to have the skills and looks to be very &#8220;event&#8221; presentable as part of the overall marketing of the book.  Alex Ohlin, another Giller finalist, is another who fits the model &#8212; although the vicious review she got in the NY Times probably overtook any other marketing aspect (and in the finall analysis also probably sold more books).</p>
<p>As for Y, I remember the general thrust of the book and a few of the scenes but would have to say that it hasn&#8217;t grown in memory since I read it.</p>
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		<title>By: kimbofo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you see that this book has been named on the Waterstone&#039;s 11 for 2013?? 

She was also at at fiction evening hosted by Faber last night to unveil their top picks for the year ahead to press/booksellers etc. I was astonished at how young she was! Anyway, now have a hardcover edition to get stuck into at some point...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see that this book has been named on the Waterstone&#8217;s 11 for 2013?? </p>
<p>She was also at at fiction evening hosted by Faber last night to unveil their top picks for the year ahead to press/booksellers etc. I was astonished at how young she was! Anyway, now have a hardcover edition to get stuck into at some point&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brett:  Thanks for the thoughts and the pointers.  I&#039;m afraid this year&#039;s Giller jury has already stretched my tolerance for abandoned child/damaged young women novels to the limit -- but other visitors here might find it worthwhile to pursue your recommendations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett:  Thanks for the thoughts and the pointers.  I&#8217;m afraid this year&#8217;s Giller jury has already stretched my tolerance for abandoned child/damaged young women novels to the limit &#8212; but other visitors here might find it worthwhile to pursue your recommendations.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kevin,

Thank you for the very thought and, in my opinion, accurate review. While I enjoyed this Celona&#039;s writing inmensely (I was sent a copy of the book by her publisher), I, too, felt that there was something a little too &quot;pat&quot; about the ending. However, like you, this did not stop me from reading. I can only hope that we will be hearing more from this writer. In the meantime, try &quot;The Panopticon&quot; by Jenni Fagan (a first time novelist herself) if you want a more harrowing account of a similar story. I&#039;m not sure why this book hasn&#039;t received more attention. Perhaps in her native Scotland it has. For me, &quot;The Panopticon&quot; and I.J. Kay&#039;s &quot;Mountains of the Moon&quot; are by far the best books I&#039;ve read this year, despite what the Booker judges may feel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin,</p>
<p>Thank you for the very thought and, in my opinion, accurate review. While I enjoyed this Celona&#8217;s writing inmensely (I was sent a copy of the book by her publisher), I, too, felt that there was something a little too &#8220;pat&#8221; about the ending. However, like you, this did not stop me from reading. I can only hope that we will be hearing more from this writer. In the meantime, try &#8220;The Panopticon&#8221; by Jenni Fagan (a first time novelist herself) if you want a more harrowing account of a similar story. I&#8217;m not sure why this book hasn&#8217;t received more attention. Perhaps in her native Scotland it has. For me, &#8220;The Panopticon&#8221; and I.J. Kay&#8217;s &#8220;Mountains of the Moon&#8221; are by far the best books I&#8217;ve read this year, despite what the Booker judges may feel.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/y-by-marjorie-celona/#comment-12553</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Max:  Well, perhaps you are being a bit picky -- of course, it is narrator Shannon&#039;s memory of what she thinks happened.  In the author&#039;s defence, that exercise in imagination is a necessary trait of abandoned child books.

And yes, I don&#039;t think this is a book for you.  That doesn&#039;t mean it is not entirely acceptable to readers with other tastes (and you remember correctly that I recently made that comment about bloggers correctly warning me off books ).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max:  Well, perhaps you are being a bit picky &#8212; of course, it is narrator Shannon&#8217;s memory of what she thinks happened.  In the author&#8217;s defence, that exercise in imagination is a necessary trait of abandoned child books.</p>
<p>And yes, I don&#8217;t think this is a book for you.  That doesn&#8217;t mean it is not entirely acceptable to readers with other tastes (and you remember correctly that I recently made that comment about bloggers correctly warning me off books ).</p>
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		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did Vaughan tell her that he saw Shannon&#039;s &quot;mother kiss [her] cheek — a furtive peck like a frightened bird&quot;? It seems an unusually specific detail if he told her years later when she&#039;d grown, but otherwise where does the observation come from?

Perhaps I&#039;m being picky. 

It sounds like it&#039;ll be a hit with book clubs Kevin, but you&#039;ve done me that great service one blogger does another of giving me enough information to let me know this is one I can pass on (I think I saw you make that comment to someone else recently, it really is very true).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Vaughan tell her that he saw Shannon&#8217;s &#8220;mother kiss [her] cheek — a furtive peck like a frightened bird&#8221;? It seems an unusually specific detail if he told her years later when she&#8217;d grown, but otherwise where does the observation come from?</p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m being picky. </p>
<p>It sounds like it&#8217;ll be a hit with book clubs Kevin, but you&#8217;ve done me that great service one blogger does another of giving me enough information to let me know this is one I can pass on (I think I saw you make that comment to someone else recently, it really is very true).</p>
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		<title>By: sshaver</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good writing can overcome anything. No kryptonite can touch it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good writing can overcome anything. No kryptonite can touch it.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DGR:  I would say Shannon&#039;s voice is even stronger than Annabel&#039;s (although Kathleen Winter&#039;s plot was more tightly put together for me).  I won&#039;t try to anticipate your response given that you spend so much time working with real-life versions of this story.  As stay tuned for &lt;em&gt;The Imposter Bride&lt;/em&gt; -- I just started it yesterday but so far it does focus on another &quot;abandoned&quot; child, this one in quite a different set of circumstances.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DGR:  I would say Shannon&#8217;s voice is even stronger than Annabel&#8217;s (although Kathleen Winter&#8217;s plot was more tightly put together for me).  I won&#8217;t try to anticipate your response given that you spend so much time working with real-life versions of this story.  As stay tuned for <em>The Imposter Bride</em> &#8212; I just started it yesterday but so far it does focus on another &#8220;abandoned&#8221; child, this one in quite a different set of circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David:  Again, we have a very similar response.  One reason why I am looking forward to Celona&#039;s next book is that most of the concerns I had with this one (&quot;tidiness&quot; would be a good one-word summary) were ones that showed her lack of experience.  As your comments about the effective way she can alter voices illustrates, the novel shows that she already has many of the more subtle tools that a good writer needs.

Perhaps the best test of &lt;em&gt;Y&lt;/em&gt; will be how it settles over the next couple of months.  I am sometimes guilty of letting annoyances that I call sentimentality get in my way as I am reading a book -- and find that they fade later while the stronger impressions remain.  Then again, sometimes the whole book fades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:  Again, we have a very similar response.  One reason why I am looking forward to Celona&#8217;s next book is that most of the concerns I had with this one (&#8220;tidiness&#8221; would be a good one-word summary) were ones that showed her lack of experience.  As your comments about the effective way she can alter voices illustrates, the novel shows that she already has many of the more subtle tools that a good writer needs.</p>
<p>Perhaps the best test of <em>Y</em> will be how it settles over the next couple of months.  I am sometimes guilty of letting annoyances that I call sentimentality get in my way as I am reading a book &#8212; and find that they fade later while the stronger impressions remain.  Then again, sometimes the whole book fades.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I mentioned over on the forum, I thoroughly enjoyed &#039;Y&#039; and found it quite compelling, and though I didn&#039;t get through it in one day as you did, Kevin, I did read the last 160 pages in one evening. Although it didn&#039;t move me to tears (I think only two books have ever done that!) it was one with which I became quite emotionally engaged and I cared about the characters. I think Celona is particularly adept at voices - the way Shannon&#039;s voice subtly matures and alters throughout the book (especially in her sarcastic and judgemental teenage years) is very well done, and the letter from her father, which forms one chapter, has its own unique voice and slightly put me in mind of Willy Vlautin&#039;s writing.

But, I did find Celona strayed uncomfortably close to sentimental TV Movie territory occasionally and only just avoided mawkishness towards the end (the petting zoo was a bit much). Though I don&#039;t think I would have wanted a different ending (and indeed without it Shannon wouldn&#039;t have been able to tell a lot of her or Yula&#039;s story, which presumably she learns from her mother and grandfather) it felt too tidy. And I thought the fact that nearly everyone Shannon encounters is kind and the right person at the right time to assist her in her progress was a bit too convenient. But largely the author won me over and like you I think it shows a great deal of promise. I&#039;ll certainly look forward to whatever Celona writes next.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned over on the forum, I thoroughly enjoyed &#8216;Y&#8217; and found it quite compelling, and though I didn&#8217;t get through it in one day as you did, Kevin, I did read the last 160 pages in one evening. Although it didn&#8217;t move me to tears (I think only two books have ever done that!) it was one with which I became quite emotionally engaged and I cared about the characters. I think Celona is particularly adept at voices &#8211; the way Shannon&#8217;s voice subtly matures and alters throughout the book (especially in her sarcastic and judgemental teenage years) is very well done, and the letter from her father, which forms one chapter, has its own unique voice and slightly put me in mind of Willy Vlautin&#8217;s writing.</p>
<p>But, I did find Celona strayed uncomfortably close to sentimental TV Movie territory occasionally and only just avoided mawkishness towards the end (the petting zoo was a bit much). Though I don&#8217;t think I would have wanted a different ending (and indeed without it Shannon wouldn&#8217;t have been able to tell a lot of her or Yula&#8217;s story, which presumably she learns from her mother and grandfather) it felt too tidy. And I thought the fact that nearly everyone Shannon encounters is kind and the right person at the right time to assist her in her progress was a bit too convenient. But largely the author won me over and like you I think it shows a great deal of promise. I&#8217;ll certainly look forward to whatever Celona writes next.</p>
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