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	<title>Comments on: The Betrayal, by Helen Dunmore</title>
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	<description>This blogger seems to like every Australian writer but me -- P. Carey</description>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2010/08/25/the-betrayal-by-helen-dunmore/#comment-5668</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you will probably find this book much more worthwhile than I did.  Some months on, I am even more convinced that, for me, others have done this better.  But it should be acknowledged that Dunmore certainly has her fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you will probably find this book much more worthwhile than I did.  Some months on, I am even more convinced that, for me, others have done this better.  But it should be acknowledged that Dunmore certainly has her fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 00:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t read Betrayal yet, but remember quite clearly reading Siege a few years back.  It was one of those rare books that get inside you physically and force you to feel what the characters are experiencing. 

As they suffered during the siege of Leningrad I had to get a blanket to put around me while I read (and some toast to eat!), so strong was Dunmore&#039;s evocation of the cold and the hunger. 

Only one other book has made me feel chilled to the bone while reading it during a hot Australian summer, and that was The left Hand of Darkness.

I would say she is far more than a safe pair of hands, although that description does resonate about a few other authors I can think of!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read Betrayal yet, but remember quite clearly reading Siege a few years back.  It was one of those rare books that get inside you physically and force you to feel what the characters are experiencing. </p>
<p>As they suffered during the siege of Leningrad I had to get a blanket to put around me while I read (and some toast to eat!), so strong was Dunmore&#8217;s evocation of the cold and the hunger. </p>
<p>Only one other book has made me feel chilled to the bone while reading it during a hot Australian summer, and that was The left Hand of Darkness.</p>
<p>I would say she is far more than a safe pair of hands, although that description does resonate about a few other authors I can think of!</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 03:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tomcat:  Well, it certainly wasn&#039;t one of my favorites and even a month later only the plot outline remains in memory.  Thanks for the kind words about the blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomcat:  Well, it certainly wasn&#8217;t one of my favorites and even a month later only the plot outline remains in memory.  Thanks for the kind words about the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomcat in the red room.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomcat in the red room.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 23:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting review.  I hated this novel; I think it&#039;s among the worst of this year&#039;s Booker nominees; overly simplistic with clumsy metaphors.  Also, the fact that Dunmore feels a need to explain that a &#039;half century&#039; prison term is 50 years.  Thanks for that, Helen!

Great blog!

http://tomcatintheredroom.wordpress.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting review.  I hated this novel; I think it&#8217;s among the worst of this year&#8217;s Booker nominees; overly simplistic with clumsy metaphors.  Also, the fact that Dunmore feels a need to explain that a &#8216;half century&#8217; prison term is 50 years.  Thanks for that, Helen!</p>
<p>Great blog!</p>
<p><a href="http://tomcatintheredroom.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://tomcatintheredroom.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Max:  It hurts just to think about having to participate in that compulsory musical.  I presume it was &quot;composed&quot; by one of the masters and this was the only route to actually get it produced.  I also don&#039;t think the Booker longlisting is going to help sales much at all.  True there are a handful of people (like me) who get added, but I don&#039;t think it is a large number.  And I think anybody who does look at it in a bookstore is going to see that it is a follow-up volume and, if anything, head back to The Siege.  I should note that the cover is one of the better from this year&#039;s dozen -- had I simply come across this on a bookstore shelf I would have picked it up (and then put it back after reading the inside blurb).

Kimbofo:  She is what I would call a &quot;polished&quot; writer, so I could see where some instructors would find her a good example -- particularly if they had a class inclined to confusing, run-on paragraphs and sentences.  I too wonder about both this and the Dunmore on the list, mainly because the first novels attracted limited attention (I can&#039;t help but wonder if one or two judges are playing a version of &quot;catch up&quot; with these listings, as both books are weak).  Pat Barker did win the Booker for The Ghost Road, which was volume three in the Regeneration trilogy (and the weakest of the three for my money), but I think in that case it really was for all three books.  And Amitav Ghosh did get nominated for Sea of Poppies a couple years ago, the first in an anticipated trilogy.  

Isabel:  There isn&#039;t much &quot;cold&quot; in this one, so I think you might find more suitable &quot;summer reads&quot;.  I&#039;d check out the Solzhenitsyn&#039;s for more useful Stalin reading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max:  It hurts just to think about having to participate in that compulsory musical.  I presume it was &#8220;composed&#8221; by one of the masters and this was the only route to actually get it produced.  I also don&#8217;t think the Booker longlisting is going to help sales much at all.  True there are a handful of people (like me) who get added, but I don&#8217;t think it is a large number.  And I think anybody who does look at it in a bookstore is going to see that it is a follow-up volume and, if anything, head back to The Siege.  I should note that the cover is one of the better from this year&#8217;s dozen &#8212; had I simply come across this on a bookstore shelf I would have picked it up (and then put it back after reading the inside blurb).</p>
<p>Kimbofo:  She is what I would call a &#8220;polished&#8221; writer, so I could see where some instructors would find her a good example &#8212; particularly if they had a class inclined to confusing, run-on paragraphs and sentences.  I too wonder about both this and the Dunmore on the list, mainly because the first novels attracted limited attention (I can&#8217;t help but wonder if one or two judges are playing a version of &#8220;catch up&#8221; with these listings, as both books are weak).  Pat Barker did win the Booker for The Ghost Road, which was volume three in the Regeneration trilogy (and the weakest of the three for my money), but I think in that case it really was for all three books.  And Amitav Ghosh did get nominated for Sea of Poppies a couple years ago, the first in an anticipated trilogy.  </p>
<p>Isabel:  There isn&#8217;t much &#8220;cold&#8221; in this one, so I think you might find more suitable &#8220;summer reads&#8221;.  I&#8217;d check out the Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s for more useful Stalin reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Isabel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read The Siege as part of my &quot;summer reads&quot;.

You can read my review.

The mother died before the war started, and the father survived a bit into the Siege.

I don&#039;t know much about Stalin, so I might start with this Dunmore novel next summer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read The Siege as part of my &#8220;summer reads&#8221;.</p>
<p>You can read my review.</p>
<p>The mother died before the war started, and the father survived a bit into the Siege.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about Stalin, so I might start with this Dunmore novel next summer.</p>
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		<title>By: kimbofo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kimbofo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve read one Dunmore novel, A Spell of Winter, but I didn&#039;t love it enough to want to read any more of her stuff. And yet, when I did a creative writing class back in the early 2000s, the tutors held her up as some kind of demigod. (I had an inkling that one of them was an acquaintance or friend of Dunmore, but that might have just been my cynical gene kicking in.)

I find it interesting that two books on the Booker longlist are effectively sequels -- the Dunmore and the Alan Warner. I guess it&#039;s not unheard of because one of Edward St Aubyn&#039;s Patrick Melrose trilogy made the cut a few years back, but it does seem unusual to me that books that are part of a series are considered for this prize, because surely to get the full effect of a series you need to read them all...?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read one Dunmore novel, A Spell of Winter, but I didn&#8217;t love it enough to want to read any more of her stuff. And yet, when I did a creative writing class back in the early 2000s, the tutors held her up as some kind of demigod. (I had an inkling that one of them was an acquaintance or friend of Dunmore, but that might have just been my cynical gene kicking in.)</p>
<p>I find it interesting that two books on the Booker longlist are effectively sequels &#8212; the Dunmore and the Alan Warner. I guess it&#8217;s not unheard of because one of Edward St Aubyn&#8217;s Patrick Melrose trilogy made the cut a few years back, but it does seem unusual to me that books that are part of a series are considered for this prize, because surely to get the full effect of a series you need to read them all&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember Cancer Ward being my favourite Solzhenitsyn.  A Day in the Life was rather spoiled for me by my very left wing school making a musical of it for the school choir one year with compulsory participation.

One song was about keeping moving so as not to freeze to death in the Siberian cold, the rest mercifully escapes me.

This would probably have been better had you read its prequel, though I suspect you wouldn&#039;t have been any more excited by it.  I actually wonder how much it benefits it to be Bookered in this way.  In the normal course those who&#039;d enjoyed the previous book would seek this one out and Dunmore would have people reading her who really wanted to.  Now it&#039;s getting a kind of exposure that (like Child 44) may not be entirely to its benefit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Cancer Ward being my favourite Solzhenitsyn.  A Day in the Life was rather spoiled for me by my very left wing school making a musical of it for the school choir one year with compulsory participation.</p>
<p>One song was about keeping moving so as not to freeze to death in the Siberian cold, the rest mercifully escapes me.</p>
<p>This would probably have been better had you read its prequel, though I suspect you wouldn&#8217;t have been any more excited by it.  I actually wonder how much it benefits it to be Bookered in this way.  In the normal course those who&#8217;d enjoyed the previous book would seek this one out and Dunmore would have people reading her who really wanted to.  Now it&#8217;s getting a kind of exposure that (like Child 44) may not be entirely to its benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom:  Your comment is a very fair summary of my reaction.  I&#039;m not inclined to pick up another Dunmore, but if one crossed my path, I&#039;d probably have a look.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom:  Your comment is a very fair summary of my reaction.  I&#8217;m not inclined to pick up another Dunmore, but if one crossed my path, I&#8217;d probably have a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think of Dunmore as a good writer, but not among the best, and your review tends to confirm my impression.  Alas I have read too many books on similar topics to want to read this one - thanks for an excellent review which saves me having to get hold of a copy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of Dunmore as a good writer, but not among the best, and your review tends to confirm my impression.  Alas I have read too many books on similar topics to want to read this one &#8211; thanks for an excellent review which saves me having to get hold of a copy!</p>
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