<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The Ask, by Sam Lipsyte</title>
	<atom:link href="http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/the-ask-by-sam-lipsyte/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/the-ask-by-sam-lipsyte/</link>
	<description>This blogger seems to like every Australian writer but me -- P. Carey</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 21:18:40 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/the-ask-by-sam-lipsyte/#comment-3472</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/?p=3095#comment-3472</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Max:  The writing is better than the quotes would indicate.  One of the problems of using a first person narrator (part of whose charm is his incompleteness) is that the &quot;voice&quot; succeeds by building him as a character (which Lipsyte did for me) rather than easily quotable observations.  And of course part of what is most intriguing about Milo is his total incompetence at dealing with some pretty ordinary challenges.

I should have made it clear that Lipsyte does not use the label &quot;late capitalism&quot; -- rather that came from the critic in whatever literary publication it was where I read the discussion of the book.  I agree that the label doesn&#039;t make much (if any) sense.  Having said that, there is an economic factor that is a major driver in the book which indicates that modern capitalism is different -- the &quot;ask&quot; is a youngish tech success, not a Carnegie or Rockefeller.  One of the things that I liked about the book is that Lipsyte does capture the way the world is moving more quickly than it once did.

I&#039;ve only reader Generation X by Coupland, and don&#039;t remember much about it beyond the obvious.  I&#039;ve looked at a couple of others but never been interested -- he seems to use his fiction as one vehicle for his broader social commentary, which is of marginal interest to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max:  The writing is better than the quotes would indicate.  One of the problems of using a first person narrator (part of whose charm is his incompleteness) is that the &#8220;voice&#8221; succeeds by building him as a character (which Lipsyte did for me) rather than easily quotable observations.  And of course part of what is most intriguing about Milo is his total incompetence at dealing with some pretty ordinary challenges.</p>
<p>I should have made it clear that Lipsyte does not use the label &#8220;late capitalism&#8221; &#8212; rather that came from the critic in whatever literary publication it was where I read the discussion of the book.  I agree that the label doesn&#8217;t make much (if any) sense.  Having said that, there is an economic factor that is a major driver in the book which indicates that modern capitalism is different &#8212; the &#8220;ask&#8221; is a youngish tech success, not a Carnegie or Rockefeller.  One of the things that I liked about the book is that Lipsyte does capture the way the world is moving more quickly than it once did.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only reader Generation X by Coupland, and don&#8217;t remember much about it beyond the obvious.  I&#8217;ve looked at a couple of others but never been interested &#8212; he seems to use his fiction as one vehicle for his broader social commentary, which is of marginal interest to me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Max Cairnduff</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/the-ask-by-sam-lipsyte/#comment-3466</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Cairnduff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/?p=3095#comment-3466</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hm.  Not sure about the quotes on this one.  They seemed to be trying very hard.  Douglas Coupland is harder to imitate than he looks.

As an aside, I hate the descriptor late capitalism.  We have no idea if our capitalism is late, we aren&#039;t dead yet.  For all we know capitalism could be around in various forms another ten thousand years and ours could be later described as early stage capitalism.  By definition, we don&#039;t know.  I&#039;ve seen it a few times and I think it&#039;s sloppy thinking.

The problem is that the dialogue sounds like dialogue, it doesn&#039;t sound like conversation.  That isn&#039;t necessarily problematic, lots of great books have stylised dialogue, but I did feel the quotes were rather telling me what to think.

Have you read much Coupland Kevin?  I&#039;ve only read a couple and this did remind me of him, but with perhaps less wit.  Any thoughts?

I suppose I&#039;m Gen X, I hadn&#039;t really thought about it before.  That said, I&#039;m not terribly persuaded the generation exists, it&#039;s a good novel but I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s good demographics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm.  Not sure about the quotes on this one.  They seemed to be trying very hard.  Douglas Coupland is harder to imitate than he looks.</p>
<p>As an aside, I hate the descriptor late capitalism.  We have no idea if our capitalism is late, we aren&#8217;t dead yet.  For all we know capitalism could be around in various forms another ten thousand years and ours could be later described as early stage capitalism.  By definition, we don&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;ve seen it a few times and I think it&#8217;s sloppy thinking.</p>
<p>The problem is that the dialogue sounds like dialogue, it doesn&#8217;t sound like conversation.  That isn&#8217;t necessarily problematic, lots of great books have stylised dialogue, but I did feel the quotes were rather telling me what to think.</p>
<p>Have you read much Coupland Kevin?  I&#8217;ve only read a couple and this did remind me of him, but with perhaps less wit.  Any thoughts?</p>
<p>I suppose I&#8217;m Gen X, I hadn&#8217;t really thought about it before.  That said, I&#8217;m not terribly persuaded the generation exists, it&#8217;s a good novel but I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s good demographics.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/the-ask-by-sam-lipsyte/#comment-3442</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/?p=3095#comment-3442</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Kerry:  Mrs. KfC started it about an hour ago -- she&#039;s much more selective about fiction than I am (and also knows the fund-raising world very well).  She just observed &quot;this book&#039;s hilarious&quot; , which is probably a better recommendation than my review.

I&#039;m pretty sure my next New York book is going to be &lt;em&gt;The Tenants of Moonbloom&lt;/em&gt;  -- I have &lt;em&gt;Fortress of Solitude&lt;/em&gt; on hand as well but, like you, I seem to be thinking that it is a book that needs to be &quot;worked up to&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry:  Mrs. KfC started it about an hour ago &#8212; she&#8217;s much more selective about fiction than I am (and also knows the fund-raising world very well).  She just observed &#8220;this book&#8217;s hilarious&#8221; , which is probably a better recommendation than my review.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure my next New York book is going to be <em>The Tenants of Moonbloom</em>  &#8212; I have <em>Fortress of Solitude</em> on hand as well but, like you, I seem to be thinking that it is a book that needs to be &#8220;worked up to&#8221;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kerry</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/the-ask-by-sam-lipsyte/#comment-3441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/?p=3095#comment-3441</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Great review, Kevin.  This looks like one I will have to keep in mind.  I am a Gen-Xer, so I will be interested to see how/if our different generational perspectives shade my view.

I do like Lipsyte&#039;s humor.  At least, I like as much of it as I can see in your review.

As for the list of books that include characters from all walks of Manhattan life, Lethem&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Chronic City&lt;/i&gt; is another.  It was not my favorite of his work (and I am still working up to &lt;i&gt;Fortress of Solitude&lt;/i&gt;), but I did enjoy it.  In fact, I think I am talking myself into reading &lt;i&gt;The Ask&lt;/i&gt; sooner rather than later.

Good review, Kevin.  I was going to avoid it, now I will read it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review, Kevin.  This looks like one I will have to keep in mind.  I am a Gen-Xer, so I will be interested to see how/if our different generational perspectives shade my view.</p>
<p>I do like Lipsyte&#8217;s humor.  At least, I like as much of it as I can see in your review.</p>
<p>As for the list of books that include characters from all walks of Manhattan life, Lethem&#8217;s <i>Chronic City</i> is another.  It was not my favorite of his work (and I am still working up to <i>Fortress of Solitude</i>), but I did enjoy it.  In fact, I think I am talking myself into reading <i>The Ask</i> sooner rather than later.</p>
<p>Good review, Kevin.  I was going to avoid it, now I will read it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/the-ask-by-sam-lipsyte/#comment-3436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/?p=3095#comment-3436</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Tom:  Definitely worth the effort for me.  Lipsyte moves things along so quickly that even when you are in a not-very-good part you know it won&#039;t last for long.  He also has a wonderful sense for obscure humor as I hope the quotes illustrate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom:  Definitely worth the effort for me.  Lipsyte moves things along so quickly that even when you are in a not-very-good part you know it won&#8217;t last for long.  He also has a wonderful sense for obscure humor as I hope the quotes illustrate.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tom C</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/the-ask-by-sam-lipsyte/#comment-3432</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/?p=3095#comment-3432</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[You have written an engaging review of a book which seems to have a wide range of themes to pull out.  As a baby-boomer, I also like to read widely beyond my generation - this one seems to be quite a complex read but it sounds as though you thought it was worth the effort]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have written an engaging review of a book which seems to have a wide range of themes to pull out.  As a baby-boomer, I also like to read widely beyond my generation &#8211; this one seems to be quite a complex read but it sounds as though you thought it was worth the effort</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/the-ask-by-sam-lipsyte/#comment-3424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/?p=3095#comment-3424</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I left this quote from &lt;em&gt;The Ask&lt;/em&gt; on John Self&#039;s The Asylum the other day, as part of a discussion regarding what I feel is Yann Martel&#039;s offensive treatment of the Holocaust in &lt;em&gt;Beatrice &amp; Virgil&lt;/em&gt; ( a dreadful book that will not be reviewed here).  I could not figure out a way to get it into my review and since author Linda Grant (whose work I admire very much) said it was a great quote, I thought I would abuse my own blog and make the first comment on &lt;em&gt;The Ask&lt;/em&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Would Cooley mention the Teitelbaum ask had once been mine? I’d screwed that one up good at a lunch, made the mistake, in listing the kinds of exhibits that might be mounted in a proposed gallery space, of mentioning the work of a Polish artist who built a model of Treblinka with Tinker Toys. The camp guards were freeze-dried ants. Teitelbaum, a Holocaust orphan, was not amused.

“What did he make the Jews out of?” the old man snarled over his salade Nicoise.

“Vintage coins from the Weimar Reublic,” I mumbled.

“Money? He made them out of money?”

“It was a point about historical perception. The artist is Jewish himself.”

But Teitelbaum, who’d made a fortune in optics, was not so intrigued by this notion of perception.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lipsyte might not link all the set pieces, but he certainly has some wonderful ones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left this quote from <em>The Ask</em> on John Self&#8217;s The Asylum the other day, as part of a discussion regarding what I feel is Yann Martel&#8217;s offensive treatment of the Holocaust in <em>Beatrice &amp; Virgil</em> ( a dreadful book that will not be reviewed here).  I could not figure out a way to get it into my review and since author Linda Grant (whose work I admire very much) said it was a great quote, I thought I would abuse my own blog and make the first comment on <em>The Ask</em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Would Cooley mention the Teitelbaum ask had once been mine? I’d screwed that one up good at a lunch, made the mistake, in listing the kinds of exhibits that might be mounted in a proposed gallery space, of mentioning the work of a Polish artist who built a model of Treblinka with Tinker Toys. The camp guards were freeze-dried ants. Teitelbaum, a Holocaust orphan, was not amused.</p>
<p>“What did he make the Jews out of?” the old man snarled over his salade Nicoise.</p>
<p>“Vintage coins from the Weimar Reublic,” I mumbled.</p>
<p>“Money? He made them out of money?”</p>
<p>“It was a point about historical perception. The artist is Jewish himself.”</p>
<p>But Teitelbaum, who’d made a fortune in optics, was not so intrigued by this notion of perception.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Lipsyte might not link all the set pieces, but he certainly has some wonderful ones.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
