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	<title>Comments on: Old School, by Tobias Wolff</title>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/old-school-by-tobias-wolff/#comment-4262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leroy:  One of the things that I like about Yates&#039; short stories is the way that he &quot;tests&quot; ideas that later find their way into this novels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leroy:  One of the things that I like about Yates&#8217; short stories is the way that he &#8220;tests&#8221; ideas that later find their way into this novels.</p>
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		<title>By: leroyhunter</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/old-school-by-tobias-wolff/#comment-4260</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leroyhunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He doesn&#039;t seem particularly prolific Trevor, which is a worry!
Our Story Begins is on the shelf (calling to me) and This Boy&#039;s Life is on the wishlist. So I&#039;ve a bit to look forward to yet. I&#039;d not noted The Barracks Thief before, will look it out.

Kevin, I agree that the bitter, angry quality is part of what makes all Yates&#039; work so attractive and powerful (for me at least). I don&#039;t think either book suffers in the comparison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He doesn&#8217;t seem particularly prolific Trevor, which is a worry!<br />
Our Story Begins is on the shelf (calling to me) and This Boy&#8217;s Life is on the wishlist. So I&#8217;ve a bit to look forward to yet. I&#8217;d not noted The Barracks Thief before, will look it out.</p>
<p>Kevin, I agree that the bitter, angry quality is part of what makes all Yates&#8217; work so attractive and powerful (for me at least). I don&#8217;t think either book suffers in the comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/old-school-by-tobias-wolff/#comment-4256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 01:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suffered from have-to-read-Wolff-now, leroy, and I loved it, though I&#039;m now through and must only anxiously await his new novel (and no word, that I&#039;m aware of, of when that will come out).

I also have a bit of good news for you: I thought &lt;em&gt;In Pharaoh&#039;s Army&lt;/em&gt; to be his weakest, followed by &lt;em&gt;The Barracks Thief&lt;/em&gt; (though I did like each book).  Up there with &lt;em&gt;Old School&lt;/em&gt; is &lt;em&gt;This Boy&#039;s Life&lt;/em&gt;, which is just brilliant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suffered from have-to-read-Wolff-now, leroy, and I loved it, though I&#8217;m now through and must only anxiously await his new novel (and no word, that I&#8217;m aware of, of when that will come out).</p>
<p>I also have a bit of good news for you: I thought <em>In Pharaoh&#8217;s Army</em> to be his weakest, followed by <em>The Barracks Thief</em> (though I did like each book).  Up there with <em>Old School</em> is <em>This Boy&#8217;s Life</em>, which is just brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/old-school-by-tobias-wolff/#comment-4253</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leroy:  Thanks for bringing this post back up.  The Yates comparison is appropriate in more than one way -- I am working hard to pace my reading of both Yates and Wolff (I only allow myself two stories a month right now).  I haven&#039;t got to Pharaoh&#039;s Army yet, so can&#039;t comment.

I agree about the &quot;gentler&quot; comment with this book.  Yates&#039; school book has a bitterness to it (that isn&#039;t a criticism -- in fact it is part of what makes it a good novel).  And the word I would use for Skippy Dies is &quot;irreverance&quot; -- be it students, staff or parents, Murray chooses everything between a stiletto and a broad axe to have his fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leroy:  Thanks for bringing this post back up.  The Yates comparison is appropriate in more than one way &#8212; I am working hard to pace my reading of both Yates and Wolff (I only allow myself two stories a month right now).  I haven&#8217;t got to Pharaoh&#8217;s Army yet, so can&#8217;t comment.</p>
<p>I agree about the &#8220;gentler&#8221; comment with this book.  Yates&#8217; school book has a bitterness to it (that isn&#8217;t a criticism &#8212; in fact it is part of what makes it a good novel).  And the word I would use for Skippy Dies is &#8220;irreverance&#8221; &#8212; be it students, staff or parents, Murray chooses everything between a stiletto and a broad axe to have his fun.</p>
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		<title>By: leroyhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leroyhunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I linked here from your Skippy Dies review Kevin...am thinking of reading that one and in fact I read this last weekend. 

I&#039;ve read A Good School (brilliant, like all Yates) for &quot;school novel&quot; comparison, and I&#039;ve read In Pharaoh&#039;s Army for a &quot;Wolff&quot; comparison. This is really top drawer, gentler then the Yates and in my view superior to In Pharaoh&#039;s Army for being perfectly, completely realised (I liked the latter but thought it petered out at the end).

I&#039;ll add my voice to previous praise for the Frost and Rand sequences: I was practically purring reading them.

I think John Self mentioned Wolff as someone you read and then know you have to read everything else by him: I agree completely. It&#039;s a nice little synchronicity to find this review but refreshing the pleasure the novel gave me makes it harder not to reach straight for more Wolff from the TBR shelf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I linked here from your Skippy Dies review Kevin&#8230;am thinking of reading that one and in fact I read this last weekend. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read A Good School (brilliant, like all Yates) for &#8220;school novel&#8221; comparison, and I&#8217;ve read In Pharaoh&#8217;s Army for a &#8220;Wolff&#8221; comparison. This is really top drawer, gentler then the Yates and in my view superior to In Pharaoh&#8217;s Army for being perfectly, completely realised (I liked the latter but thought it petered out at the end).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll add my voice to previous praise for the Frost and Rand sequences: I was practically purring reading them.</p>
<p>I think John Self mentioned Wolff as someone you read and then know you have to read everything else by him: I agree completely. It&#8217;s a nice little synchronicity to find this review but refreshing the pleasure the novel gave me makes it harder not to reach straight for more Wolff from the TBR shelf.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I look forward to your thoughts on Frankie, Kerry.  It is much more light-hearted than these other two, but Lockhart has a very good satiric side to her.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to your thoughts on Frankie, Kerry.  It is much more light-hearted than these other two, but Lockhart has a very good satiric side to her.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin,

I really enjoyed both the book, &lt;i&gt;Old School&lt;/i&gt;, and your review.  I join you in fully endorsing the book.  I think you captured the essential elements of the book and Wolff&#039;s incredible skill in weaving some of the larger issues together with the personal, as in your quote about Bill.

I would rank this along with &lt;i&gt;A Separate Peace&lt;/i&gt; as one of my two favorite &quot;school&quot; novels.  I will be reading &lt;i&gt;Frankie Landau-Banks&lt;/i&gt; sometime in the not-too-distant future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>I really enjoyed both the book, <i>Old School</i>, and your review.  I join you in fully endorsing the book.  I think you captured the essential elements of the book and Wolff&#8217;s incredible skill in weaving some of the larger issues together with the personal, as in your quote about Bill.</p>
<p>I would rank this along with <i>A Separate Peace</i> as one of my two favorite &#8220;school&#8221; novels.  I will be reading <i>Frankie Landau-Banks</i> sometime in the not-too-distant future.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wolff is an author who somehow missed my radar  -- I had not even heard of him until last year.  I have heard of the Sittenfield book, but that is all.  I&#039;ll admit the Laura Bush angle probably caused me to dismiss it, so I guess I should start paying attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolff is an author who somehow missed my radar  &#8212; I had not even heard of him until last year.  I have heard of the Sittenfield book, but that is all.  I&#8217;ll admit the Laura Bush angle probably caused me to dismiss it, so I guess I should start paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: john h</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john h]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on what a well-read guy you are, I just assumed you&#039;d read the two earlier Wolff books.  &quot;In Pharoah&#039;s Army&quot; in particular is great although the other is very fine as well.

I&#039;m currently reading &quot;American Wife&quot; by Curtis Sittenfeld.  I wonder if you know about this book.  It&#039;s a fictionalized life of Laura Bush.  I&#039;m high on the list of Bush haters so it took me a while to get around to reading it and this despite the fact that I very much enjoyed Sittenfeld&#039;s two previous books.   The book carries an endorsement from Richard Russo.  That along should have told me I was in for something good.  I&#039;ve been enjoying the hell out of this book.  As I write, I&#039;m about three quarters through with it.  It&#039;s been a while since I&#039;ve enjoyed anything as much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on what a well-read guy you are, I just assumed you&#8217;d read the two earlier Wolff books.  &#8220;In Pharoah&#8217;s Army&#8221; in particular is great although the other is very fine as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently reading &#8220;American Wife&#8221; by Curtis Sittenfeld.  I wonder if you know about this book.  It&#8217;s a fictionalized life of Laura Bush.  I&#8217;m high on the list of Bush haters so it took me a while to get around to reading it and this despite the fact that I very much enjoyed Sittenfeld&#8217;s two previous books.   The book carries an endorsement from Richard Russo.  That along should have told me I was in for something good.  I&#8217;ve been enjoying the hell out of this book.  As I write, I&#8217;m about three quarters through with it.  It&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve enjoyed anything as much.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John:  Yes, I have read The Secret History -- actually thought about it when I was reading Fall (reviewed a couple weeks ago) because Tartt succeeded where McAdam failed.  My favorite story about it comes from the NY Times -- the book scroungers who collect discarded volumes from curbside garbage in Manhattan and then show up to sell them at the Strand bookstore are not allowed to bring in any paperback Secret History copies, because there are simply too many.  The original hardback (with its palimpsest cover) is quite another matter.

I haven&#039;t read the other Wolff&#039;s that you mention, so I can&#039;t comment.  I&#039;d say my penchant for school novels definitely provided Old School with some bonus marks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:  Yes, I have read The Secret History &#8212; actually thought about it when I was reading Fall (reviewed a couple weeks ago) because Tartt succeeded where McAdam failed.  My favorite story about it comes from the NY Times &#8212; the book scroungers who collect discarded volumes from curbside garbage in Manhattan and then show up to sell them at the Strand bookstore are not allowed to bring in any paperback Secret History copies, because there are simply too many.  The original hardback (with its palimpsest cover) is quite another matter.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the other Wolff&#8217;s that you mention, so I can&#8217;t comment.  I&#8217;d say my penchant for school novels definitely provided Old School with some bonus marks.</p>
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