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	<title>Comments on: Fall, by Colin McAdam</title>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
		<link>http://kevinfromcanada.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/fall-by-colin-mcadam/#comment-4208</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was inclined to think that he had just abandoned her and she died -- although I admit the absence of a body is a problem with that scenario.  Whatever -- I don&#039;t think she is with us any longer in the last part of the book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was inclined to think that he had just abandoned her and she died &#8212; although I admit the absence of a body is a problem with that scenario.  Whatever &#8212; I don&#8217;t think she is with us any longer in the last part of the book.</p>
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		<title>By: kweiks</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that he did kill her and couldn&#039;t admit it to himself. Even though she was on crutches, didn&#039;t the book say it was only a 20 min walk? And it was just one ankle - she would have had to have been hurt pretty badly not to be able to be able to return and in that event she would have tried and at least her body would have been found. So I&#039;m going with that he killed her and the river swept her body away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that he did kill her and couldn&#8217;t admit it to himself. Even though she was on crutches, didn&#8217;t the book say it was only a 20 min walk? And it was just one ankle &#8211; she would have had to have been hurt pretty badly not to be able to be able to return and in that event she would have tried and at least her body would have been found. So I&#8217;m going with that he killed her and the river swept her body away.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert:  The only observation that I would offer is that if you are that upset with the ending, the rest of the book must have worked :-).  I will admit to not liking this book when I read it and it has faded rather than grown in memory.  I hope you found something worthwhile in my thoughts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert:  The only observation that I would offer is that if you are that upset with the ending, the rest of the book must have worked <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  I will admit to not liking this book when I read it and it has faded rather than grown in memory.  I hope you found something worthwhile in my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wills</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Wills]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I certainly am glad to have read these comments. I just finished the book today. I was totally left mystified at the end. More than mystified - angry! Like I had been cheated out of something. I don&#039;t mind being baffled, if that&#039;s the author&#039;s purpose, but I have the feeling that wasn&#039;t what Mr. McAdam was after. It was like the destination meant nothing to him, The journey meant everything. I don&#039;t mind making a journey, but I sure hope that the destination iw somewhere worth going to. Here I didn&#039;t feel that way. I did enjoy some of the prose, but those long passages of juvenile dialogue were very boring for me. I hope Mr. McAdam has a better book inside him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I certainly am glad to have read these comments. I just finished the book today. I was totally left mystified at the end. More than mystified &#8211; angry! Like I had been cheated out of something. I don&#8217;t mind being baffled, if that&#8217;s the author&#8217;s purpose, but I have the feeling that wasn&#8217;t what Mr. McAdam was after. It was like the destination meant nothing to him, The journey meant everything. I don&#8217;t mind making a journey, but I sure hope that the destination iw somewhere worth going to. Here I didn&#8217;t feel that way. I did enjoy some of the prose, but those long passages of juvenile dialogue were very boring for me. I hope Mr. McAdam has a better book inside him.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SPOILER ALERT

Lisa:  Don&#039;t feel stupid -- the book doesn&#039;t actually say what happens to Fall.  However, McAdam did say in a Giller panel that I saw that he &quot;had killed off one of his characters&quot;, so I think we can safely presume she froze to death on the banks of the river.  It hadn&#039;t occured to me that he might have killed her and then lied to himself -- the way the book reads, he just abandoned her after throwing her crutches away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPOILER ALERT</p>
<p>Lisa:  Don&#8217;t feel stupid &#8212; the book doesn&#8217;t actually say what happens to Fall.  However, McAdam did say in a Giller panel that I saw that he &#8220;had killed off one of his characters&#8221;, so I think we can safely presume she froze to death on the banks of the river.  It hadn&#8217;t occured to me that he might have killed her and then lied to himself &#8212; the way the book reads, he just abandoned her after throwing her crutches away.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,
I feel so stupid, but I can&#039;t figure out the ending.  I read you last comment, and it seems as if you were not positive either.  DId Noel abandon her with a hurt foot and no crutches--and then she ran away?  was killed?  drowned?  Or did he kill her and lie to himself?  Please tell me.  It&#039;s driving me crazy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I feel so stupid, but I can&#8217;t figure out the ending.  I read you last comment, and it seems as if you were not positive either.  DId Noel abandon her with a hurt foot and no crutches&#8211;and then she ran away?  was killed?  drowned?  Or did he kill her and lie to himself?  Please tell me.  It&#8217;s driving me crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SPOILER ALERT

Steph&#039;s comment has opened the door on something I wanted to say in the original review and have been biting my tongue on (no longer, however) ever since.

As my comments on the dialogue indicate, I was already rather grumpy about the book when the &quot;incident&quot; took place -- Noel&#039;s advance on Fall, throwing away her crutches and abandoning her.  Oh boy, I thought, now we have a direct comparison with Donna Tartt&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Secret History&lt;/i&gt; and I don&#039;t think McAdam is up to that at all.

He proves that he isn&#039;t.  While Tartt did a great job at exploring the descent and angst of her protagonists after the murder, &lt;i&gt;Fall&lt;/i&gt; does little but wander in confusion.  Noel does go through a transformation (I&#039;m inclined to agree with Steph&#039;s &quot;pseudo&quot; addition), but it is both incomplete and unconvincing.  And while I am quite happy with books that have ambiguous endings, this one is not ambiguous -- it is simply unresolved.

&lt;i&gt;The Secret History&lt;/i&gt; is normally regarded as more popular than literary, but for any reader contemplating a book about &quot;young person descends into evil&quot; it wins on every count -- better written, better story, better reading experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPOILER ALERT</p>
<p>Steph&#8217;s comment has opened the door on something I wanted to say in the original review and have been biting my tongue on (no longer, however) ever since.</p>
<p>As my comments on the dialogue indicate, I was already rather grumpy about the book when the &#8220;incident&#8221; took place &#8212; Noel&#8217;s advance on Fall, throwing away her crutches and abandoning her.  Oh boy, I thought, now we have a direct comparison with Donna Tartt&#8217;s <i>The Secret History</i> and I don&#8217;t think McAdam is up to that at all.</p>
<p>He proves that he isn&#8217;t.  While Tartt did a great job at exploring the descent and angst of her protagonists after the murder, <i>Fall</i> does little but wander in confusion.  Noel does go through a transformation (I&#8217;m inclined to agree with Steph&#8217;s &#8220;pseudo&#8221; addition), but it is both incomplete and unconvincing.  And while I am quite happy with books that have ambiguous endings, this one is not ambiguous &#8212; it is simply unresolved.</p>
<p><i>The Secret History</i> is normally regarded as more popular than literary, but for any reader contemplating a book about &#8220;young person descends into evil&#8221; it wins on every count &#8212; better written, better story, better reading experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Steph has hit what made the book compelling for me too: that Noel was changing and we want to see what type of monster he will become, or is.  However, I also think she nailed it when she called it a pseudo-transformation.  In the end, it didn&#039;t add up.  Thanks for saying what I knew I was feeling but couldn&#039;t figure out, Steph!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Steph has hit what made the book compelling for me too: that Noel was changing and we want to see what type of monster he will become, or is.  However, I also think she nailed it when she called it a pseudo-transformation.  In the end, it didn&#8217;t add up.  Thanks for saying what I knew I was feeling but couldn&#8217;t figure out, Steph!</p>
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		<title>By: KevinfromCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinfromCanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steph:  Fall has not got any better for me with the passage of time.  And I would certainly now add Wolff&#039;s Old School to my list of better school novels -- it is quite special.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steph:  Fall has not got any better for me with the passage of time.  And I would certainly now add Wolff&#8217;s Old School to my list of better school novels &#8212; it is quite special.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just finished this book and...wasn&#039;t sure what to think. That&#039;s why I found this page--I was interested to read other reviews.

I agree with you on most points...I don&#039;t like stream-of-consciousness writing like Julius&#039; point of view, and I found the really long sex scenes annoying, as I&#039;m not a prude, but don&#039;t like sex scenes like that if they&#039;re not necessary. I get that Julius is sex-obsessed with the many references to his masturbation throughout the novel. The only thing I can figure is that McAdam was trying to show that they were in love? I don&#039;t know.

I think what kept me reading was knowing that Noel was slowly turning out to be a lot different than I thought at the beginning of the novel--the pseudo-transformation (or true revelation of character, I guess) was intriguing to me. And I still wonder what really happened on the beach with Meg.

I hated the ending, though, with no resolution, just kind of a &#039;some people are bad, and boarding schools can breed bad people&#039; kind of moral.

Anyway, I would not recommend the book to anyone. It didn&#039;t take me long to read, but I don&#039;t feel edified in any way by it. I think I&#039;ll try out a couple of those other books you mentioned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished this book and&#8230;wasn&#8217;t sure what to think. That&#8217;s why I found this page&#8211;I was interested to read other reviews.</p>
<p>I agree with you on most points&#8230;I don&#8217;t like stream-of-consciousness writing like Julius&#8217; point of view, and I found the really long sex scenes annoying, as I&#8217;m not a prude, but don&#8217;t like sex scenes like that if they&#8217;re not necessary. I get that Julius is sex-obsessed with the many references to his masturbation throughout the novel. The only thing I can figure is that McAdam was trying to show that they were in love? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>I think what kept me reading was knowing that Noel was slowly turning out to be a lot different than I thought at the beginning of the novel&#8211;the pseudo-transformation (or true revelation of character, I guess) was intriguing to me. And I still wonder what really happened on the beach with Meg.</p>
<p>I hated the ending, though, with no resolution, just kind of a &#8216;some people are bad, and boarding schools can breed bad people&#8217; kind of moral.</p>
<p>Anyway, I would not recommend the book to anyone. It didn&#8217;t take me long to read, but I don&#8217;t feel edified in any way by it. I think I&#8217;ll try out a couple of those other books you mentioned.</p>
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